Economies should take better care of culture because without it nothing happens, argues Paola Antonelli, senior curator of architecture & design and head of research & development at the Museum of Modern Art, New York. Design is integral to economic prosperity and a driver of innovation, she says, talking to Mike Oreskes of Associated Press. Designers should be incorporated more into policy making. Museums, like schools, can be the research & development centres of society; they changing the way they think about themselves. The division between high and low culture is arbitrary, she argues, citing video games are excellent examples of interactive design.